In this excerpt from the panel discussion, our Katie Klingensmith talks to Manraj Sekhon, Chief Investment Officer of Franklin Templeton Emerging Markets Equity and Mike Rosborough, Head of International and Emerging Market Fixed Income at California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS).
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Katie Klingensmith: The trade conflict—is it really going to derail the economic trajectory that we see now?
Mike Rosborough: They’re playing the game the way they need to play the game. They, both Trump and Xi.
You ratchet up the rhetoric, you ratchet up the penalties and then you both try to find the win-win situation and the compromise, right? And something that saves face on both sides. So, you know, there are these things where you end up with a corner solution and it’s not a good one.
You have to view it in a positive light. Obviously, it creates a lot of market volatility, but at the end, you know, the net gain to everybody by liberalisation has always been there. It’s just where are the gains and losses get distributed because there are always some losers and some winners, but the net benefit is to the greater good.
Katie Klingensmith: Manraj, you are in the region and have done quite a bit of work. Tell us a bit about where you see China.
Manraj Sekhon: I think first of all, in the very short term you have this episode with the US which we think will be an episode and in time will be resolved. Even if it’s not resolved, we believe that the Chinese economy is in a much better place than it was this time last year. And there are a lot more policy tools that they can employ in terms of monetary policy, fiscal policy, reform, stimulus for small- and medium-sized enterprises. So the economy is in a better place to deal with whatever the fallout is from the trade war. But beyond that, what I think this trade war has done, inadvertently or otherwise, is really focused the mind of the Chinese. So over the last nine months, whenever we meet people in China, what’s interesting is we see a different level of focus on reforms.
And what we see in China is probably, I would say, the most sustainable level of balance between the domestic and the external sector. We see the impact of technology. Some of the companies that we look at, I think business models, you will find difficult to see anywhere else. I’m not saying China will not have its share of crises. There will be crises, there are issues they still need to deal with in the financial sector. There’s still issues they need to deal with in the state-run enterprises, in industry. But I would say broadly speaking, given the external threats, given what’s happening domestically, the balance is probably as strong as we’ve ever seen.
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